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. >>> general petraeus on capitol hill right now. the first time we've seen him since he resigned over an affair. will he put those questions to rest about benghazi? >>> president obama welcomes congressional leaders to the white house this morning. same people, same ideas on the table. is there a new willingness, though, to compromise? >>> a tragedy in texas. a freight train crashes into a parade float carrying veterans. the question is, what went wrong? >>> former director of the budget office, peter orszag will join us, jeff sessions is with us, actress jada pinkett smith will join us and kelly reilly from the movie "flight." "starting point" begins right now. welcome back, everybody. our team this morning, richard socarides is with us. economics editor at the economist. will cain is a columnist at the blaze.com. john berman is with us, helping us out with news. christine romans is sticking around, helping us out with business. fiscal cliff, 46 days and counting, we'll fall off the fiscal cliff. although some people have talked ab
. >>> general petraeus on capitol hill right now. the first time we've seen him since he resigned over an affair. will he put those questions to rest about benghazi? >>> president obama welcomes congressional leaders to the white house this morning. same people, same ideas on the table. is there a new willingness, though, to compromise? >>> a tragedy in texas. a freight train crashes into a parade float carrying veterans. the question is, what went wrong? >>>...
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. >> all right, ben. in jerusalem this morning. thanks. >>> coming up later, soledad will be speaking to israel's deputy foreign minister. that's in our 7:00 hour. >>> here at home, president obama will have the four top leaders of congress over to the white house today to begin talks on avoiding the fiscal cliff, which could plunge the u.s. economy back into a recession. both side say there is room for compromise, but at the same time, it appears democrats and republicans may have dug in on their long-held positions concerning tax hikes and spending cuts. jill doherty is in our washington bureau. good morning to you. >> good morning. >> jill, both sides have said they are optimistic about a deal here. they're also not budging on some key issues. >> yeah, i mean, there is some room around the edges, but essentially, and this is the the opening gambit, of course. they're both talking about taxes. the president saying -- and revenue. the president saying that he wants more revenue from the wealthiest americans and the republicans and
. >> all right, ben. in jerusalem this morning. thanks. >>> coming up later, soledad will be speaking to israel's deputy foreign minister. that's in our 7:00 hour. >>> here at home, president obama will have the four top leaders of congress over to the white house today to begin talks on avoiding the fiscal cliff, which could plunge the u.s. economy back into a recession. both side say there is room for compromise, but at the same time, it appears democrats and...
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we're going to tell you what president obama is doing about it right now. plus, a look at the likely consequences of an all-out ground war in gaza. they are very disturbing. i don't spend money on gasoline. i am probably going to the gas station about once a month. last time i was at a gas station was about...i would say... two months ago. i very rarely put gas in my chevy volt. i go to the gas station such a small amount that i forget how to put gas in my car. [ male announcer ] and it's not just these owners giving the volt high praise. volt received the j.d. power and associates appeal award two years in a row. ♪ bp has paid overthe people of bp twenty-threeitment to the gulf. billion dollars to help those affected and to cover cleanup costs. today, the beaches and gulf are open, and many areas are reporting their best tourism seasons in years. and bp's also committed to america. we support nearly 250,000 jobs and invest more here than anywhere else. we're working to fuel america for generations to come. our commitment has never been stronger. >>> viol
we're going to tell you what president obama is doing about it right now. plus, a look at the likely consequences of an all-out ground war in gaza. they are very disturbing. i don't spend money on gasoline. i am probably going to the gas station about once a month. last time i was at a gas station was about...i would say... two months ago. i very rarely put gas in my chevy volt. i go to the gas station such a small amount that i forget how to put gas in my car. [ male announcer ] and it's not...
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she said president obama told benjamin netanyahu that he understands israel's right to self-defense in light of countless rocket attacks on israeli civilians being launched from gaza. the president urged that prime minister netanyahu make every effort to avoid civilian casualties. do we think this administration has were leverage in making sure that happens? >> i mean, the israelis really feel that they have gone too far. they simply could not hold back from defending themselves because of the hundreds of attacks. trying to stop that, trying to tell israel not to defend itself is really impossible, but that said, the danger of this, of course escalation and all-out war is really very high. that's why this administration is trying to, you know, urge both sides to stop. it's obviously not being very successful. >> you know, tony blair has put a lot of political capital in this trying to come up with a peace agreement for the middle east. he spoke about this recently, what he sees is happening. i want to play a little bit for you. >> the single thing that's most important straight away is
she said president obama told benjamin netanyahu that he understands israel's right to self-defense in light of countless rocket attacks on israeli civilians being launched from gaza. the president urged that prime minister netanyahu make every effort to avoid civilian casualties. do we think this administration has were leverage in making sure that happens? >> i mean, the israelis really feel that they have gone too far. they simply could not hold back from defending themselves because...
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you heard that republican congressman call president obama a liar. is he right? >> no. and that is absolutely outrageous, carol. and i think that is what is leading to this kind of protracted and ugly fight, which is exactly what the american people did not want coming out of this election. they wanted their leaders to work together and on something as important as benghazi, i think that every party leader needs to understand that they should dial it down a notch and really feg out what happened here. we're talking about the deaths of four americans. we're talking about an ten intelligence community that is under fire. that should be important to both parties. and ei agree with ron, we need o figure out what the cia knew, what general petraeus knew. it also goes to susan rice, ambassador rice and what she said, which came directly from the talking points that the intelligence community put together for her. so we all need to step back and really work together to figure out what happened here. >> the strange thing, if general petraeus is to blame when he was cia director
you heard that republican congressman call president obama a liar. is he right? >> no. and that is absolutely outrageous, carol. and i think that is what is leading to this kind of protracted and ugly fight, which is exactly what the american people did not want coming out of this election. they wanted their leaders to work together and on something as important as benghazi, i think that every party leader needs to understand that they should dial it down a notch and really feg out what...
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. >>> developing now from the white house president obama and congressional leaders right now meeting behind closed doors for negotiations on the so-called fiscal cliff, something that both sides want to avoid but the big question, how much are they willing to give? here's what the president said within the last hour just before the bargaining began. >> our challenge is to make sure that, you know, we are able to cooperate together, work together, find some common ground, make some tough compromises, build some consensus to do the people's business and what the folks are looking for and i think all of us agree on this is action. >> nbc's kristen welker is live at the white house. give us a brief on the expectations going in -- open minded or closed minded from both sides? >> reporter: well, i think both sides are definitely open minded but that is not to say there aren't huge hurdles that they have to get over in order to come to some sort of deal to avoid the fiscal cliff which of course by all accounts if they cannot do that it could lead the economy back into a recession. there is
. >>> developing now from the white house president obama and congressional leaders right now meeting behind closed doors for negotiations on the so-called fiscal cliff, something that both sides want to avoid but the big question, how much are they willing to give? here's what the president said within the last hour just before the bargaining began. >> our challenge is to make sure that, you know, we are able to cooperate together, work together, find some common ground, make...
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right? president obama won wisconsin with more than 205,000 votes. that's a lot of people to suppress in order to make a sure romney absolutely would win type situation. don't you think? one of the most outrageous post-election comments about minority voters came from the chairman of the state of maine. their republican party up there. charlie webster, he questioned the mere presence of african-american voters at the polls. >> in some parts of the state, for example, in some parts of rural maine, there were dozens, dozens of black people who came in and voted election day. everybody has a right to vote, but nobody in town knows anybody who's black. how did that happen? we don't know. we're going to find out. >> webster tried to explain himself to talking points memo. "when you see a lot of black people, a lot of people who are black like six or eight or ten people you think, wow, where do they live? that was my point. there's nothing about me that would be discriminatory. i know black people. i play basketball every sunday with a black guy." are you
right? president obama won wisconsin with more than 205,000 votes. that's a lot of people to suppress in order to make a sure romney absolutely would win type situation. don't you think? one of the most outrageous post-election comments about minority voters came from the chairman of the state of maine. their republican party up there. charlie webster, he questioned the mere presence of african-american voters at the polls. >> in some parts of the state, for example, in some parts of...
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right now president obama, key congressional leaders from both parties are behind closed doors at the white house. they're trying to find ways to finally find some common ground and avoid the january 1st fiscal cliff when drastic spending cuts and massive tax increases would take effect. those in attendance, there are some guests along with congressional leaders. we understand nancy pelosi will be there, john boehner the speaker will be there. we understand some guests will be the vice president, of course minority leader mitch mcconnell will also be there. we also understand that during this discussion will be some tough questions obviously and that is about the tax cuts and what the top 2% will have to pay. here is what happened moments ago. take a listen. >> i want to welcome the congressional leadership here and thank them for their time. i think we're all aware that we have some urgent business to do. we've got to make sure that taxes don't go up on middle class families, that our economy remains strong, that we're creating jobs, and that's an agenda that democrats and republican
right now president obama, key congressional leaders from both parties are behind closed doors at the white house. they're trying to find ways to finally find some common ground and avoid the january 1st fiscal cliff when drastic spending cuts and massive tax increases would take effect. those in attendance, there are some guests along with congressional leaders. we understand nancy pelosi will be there, john boehner the speaker will be there. we understand some guests will be the vice...
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. >> i know, general petraeus is a wrecking crew right now. no one has done this much damage behind closed doors since ron jeremy and the question whether president obama was incompetent or hiding something and now we know, he's incompetent on hiding something. and we know that susan rice on talk shows was a big serving of baloney risotto. >> they protected the president by department the justice saying we didn't think it was important enough or a risk. >> they're covering it up because of the fact there was a the election. they didn't want a scandal break and they got a big ole bottle of liquid paper and, malfeasance. >> dana, grassley, what's next, why the names in those hearings. and this will go on for a while. investigations like this take a little bit of time. and clapper, dni and morelle the acting director say we don't know, we don't know. there's a simple way to find out how the talking points got changed. first reported, as i recall, by steven hayes in the weekly standard several weeks like four weeks after, when the end of september
. >> i know, general petraeus is a wrecking crew right now. no one has done this much damage behind closed doors since ron jeremy and the question whether president obama was incompetent or hiding something and now we know, he's incompetent on hiding something. and we know that susan rice on talk shows was a big serving of baloney risotto. >> they protected the president by department the justice saying we didn't think it was important enough or a risk. >> they're covering it...
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speaking on on cnbc thursday, the co-chairs of president obama's deficit commission alan simpson and erskine bowles say you law make are haven't been focused on what's really right for the country. >> leaders who think it would be to their advantage to go off a fiscal cliff. what a wonderful trait that is. that we can win more democrats if we let it go over, we can win more with republicans. this whole game is not about win or lose. it's about how do we make the dems lose and how do we make the republicans lose. people are sick of that and they're ashamed of if. >> if we do get our house in order, the future of america is really bright. and we can compete with the best and brightest. if we don't, we're well on on our way to becoming a second rate power. >> simpson isn't hopeful a deal will be reached before the end of the year. bowles sees a one third chance. on that optimistic note, joining us is ben white from politico. so what's it going to be, economic chaos? >> no, i think i'm at more saa more sanguine. republicans lost seats in the house and senate and big at the presidential l
speaking on on cnbc thursday, the co-chairs of president obama's deficit commission alan simpson and erskine bowles say you law make are haven't been focused on what's really right for the country. >> leaders who think it would be to their advantage to go off a fiscal cliff. what a wonderful trait that is. that we can win more democrats if we let it go over, we can win more with republicans. this whole game is not about win or lose. it's about how do we make the dems lose and how do we...
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stephanie: yeah right george bush appointed--yeah that's obama's fault. >> and that eric cantor didn't say anything about that, even though you knew something about it but didn't leave his--never mind. >> stephanie: diane in chicago. hi diane. >> caller: how are you this morning? >> stephanie: good go ahead. >> caller: john mccain has post election syndrome like sometimes it may not hit them until four years later and this is what is happening with him. so you know-- >> stephanie: normally you get too hold to old to hold a grudge? i'm too old to care about anything. >> no, they don't. no, they don't. he's thinking, oh, i should have reacted like this four years ago. let me get them now. >> stephanie: exactly. it gets worse and worse. you think he'll be over this by now. i think i'm--would you love to be a fly on the wall in his living room election night? he's the angriest dog in the world because it further validated obama. it was not a fluke. >> i'm sure he might have even wanted to hit something. >> stephanie: interesting. >> not a bit like ed harris. >> stephanie: la von, am i sayi
stephanie: yeah right george bush appointed--yeah that's obama's fault. >> and that eric cantor didn't say anything about that, even though you knew something about it but didn't leave his--never mind. >> stephanie: diane in chicago. hi diane. >> caller: how are you this morning? >> stephanie: good go ahead. >> caller: john mccain has post election syndrome like sometimes it may not hit them until four years later and this is what is happening with him. so you...
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from president obama to our historic numbers of democratic women. and out of the problems we test and we asked them about everything because you know how this polling goes. i'm thrilled they were thrilled to do one more poll after the election, the candidates they voted against they were really concerned those candidates were going to take us back to the failed policies of the past. they got it. they don't want to roll the clocks back. they want to move forward. and more than being wrong on any issue of debt or health care or taxes, women recognized the total "mad men" gop agenda is what they did not want and they reacted that way. i say the growth will be sustainable in years to come. we have the right agenda and we just need to keep building and talking to our women, our fellow sisters across the country and the men who stand with us because they know that together we can make a great, great difference. and with that, i think about just some of the incredible women who have done so much and we do have a couple of special guests here today and if i
from president obama to our historic numbers of democratic women. and out of the problems we test and we asked them about everything because you know how this polling goes. i'm thrilled they were thrilled to do one more poll after the election, the candidates they voted against they were really concerned those candidates were going to take us back to the failed policies of the past. they got it. they don't want to roll the clocks back. they want to move forward. and more than being wrong on any...